The Swirl Podcast, Episode 48: Throwing The Baby Out With The Holy Water

This week, we discuss sex ed lies and they damage they do. Plus, we admire the grace of Sharon Stone, the determination of Dr. Dre and Jimmy Iovine, and clap back at a parental overstep. All that, plus the usual nonsense!

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  • 00:00

    INTRO / SHOW OPEN / Teen Vogue offers valuable advice to teens (and adults) / Catholic sex ed horror stories

  • 14:00

    HERE FOR IT — Sharon Stone shows grace to Madonna (Kodi) / HBO’s The Defiant Ones (Ruby)

  • 22:36

    Q&HEY — Help! My mom got a background check on my new boyfriend!

  • 28:57

    THE GOOD WORD — Jim Harrison (Ruby’s pick)

  • 29:39



  • Phillip Picardi, Digital Editorial Director at TeenVogue on the controversy:
  • 90s diva shade: Sharon Stone Responds to Madonna’s Leaked Handwritten Letter Calling Her ‘Mediocre’:

The Swirl is produced by Kodi Seaton & Stephanie Ruby. Mixed & Edited by Kodi Seaton. Social media support provided by Justine Bronson.

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